gctest
09-16 10:02 AM
God bless you.
Honestly, with a 2004 Pd, I will get my GC in an year at the most.. but you, will never wake up. With your attitude .. you are probably in for 5 years.
Let all the 2001-2005 EB3 get in line before you... that would be fun:D:D
gctest--- you are more like IV Admin patience test.
:D
Are you shocked your thread is closed? We are equally shocked that you are still allowed to post.
Honestly, with a 2004 Pd, I will get my GC in an year at the most.. but you, will never wake up. With your attitude .. you are probably in for 5 years.
Let all the 2001-2005 EB3 get in line before you... that would be fun:D:D
gctest--- you are more like IV Admin patience test.
:D
Are you shocked your thread is closed? We are equally shocked that you are still allowed to post.
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WaitingForMyGC
07-17 09:08 PM
Great JOB, IV. You are the best.
longq
02-04 10:22 PM
Look.
I would have to be an absolute moron to contribute to IV, and to work for it, if at the end it costs me more in getting a green card.
So, either you think that IV-ers from ROW are morons. Or you want them to quit, and turn this organization into an Indians-only group.
Its as simple as that. You can quote all the laws in the universe, and come up with all the fancy logic that you want. But what I have said above is what it all boils down to.
I do not care whether you contribute to IV or not. What I am writing here is law or facts and how it is affecting oversubscribed countries becuse of wrong interpretation of law. I am not here to unite or divide any group. In my level, I am contributing to end retrogression by sending mails to law makers. Even any law passes to remove retro, this misinterpretation of law is screwing Indians and Chinese. A EB2 person from Iran/Iraq/Pakistan with PD 2007 can get GC with in 6 months (right from PERM labor to 485 approval) why should Indian with PD in 2003 has to wait for ever?
My employer hired me not based on citizenship. They hired me based on their requirement for the job and my skills. They do not care, if I am male or female or Indian or Chinese or Iranian or Iraqi or Pakistani or European. I am penalized for just I am Indian not able to adjust LPR even I have priority date in 2003 after a long wait for Labor certification and 140 approvals. However, if I am from other than India and China I would have got GC with in six months even if my PD in late 2006. If a person with a Priority Date 2007 can become LPR immediately in EB2 category even if he is from a state sponsoring terrorism (provided if his background check is cleared). However a person from India having priority date in 2003 can not become LPR and sitting in dark to hope to see the light at the end of tunnel. How fare it is? Is it not the discrimination by country of birth?
I would have to be an absolute moron to contribute to IV, and to work for it, if at the end it costs me more in getting a green card.
So, either you think that IV-ers from ROW are morons. Or you want them to quit, and turn this organization into an Indians-only group.
Its as simple as that. You can quote all the laws in the universe, and come up with all the fancy logic that you want. But what I have said above is what it all boils down to.
I do not care whether you contribute to IV or not. What I am writing here is law or facts and how it is affecting oversubscribed countries becuse of wrong interpretation of law. I am not here to unite or divide any group. In my level, I am contributing to end retrogression by sending mails to law makers. Even any law passes to remove retro, this misinterpretation of law is screwing Indians and Chinese. A EB2 person from Iran/Iraq/Pakistan with PD 2007 can get GC with in 6 months (right from PERM labor to 485 approval) why should Indian with PD in 2003 has to wait for ever?
My employer hired me not based on citizenship. They hired me based on their requirement for the job and my skills. They do not care, if I am male or female or Indian or Chinese or Iranian or Iraqi or Pakistani or European. I am penalized for just I am Indian not able to adjust LPR even I have priority date in 2003 after a long wait for Labor certification and 140 approvals. However, if I am from other than India and China I would have got GC with in six months even if my PD in late 2006. If a person with a Priority Date 2007 can become LPR immediately in EB2 category even if he is from a state sponsoring terrorism (provided if his background check is cleared). However a person from India having priority date in 2003 can not become LPR and sitting in dark to hope to see the light at the end of tunnel. How fare it is? Is it not the discrimination by country of birth?
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Jerrome
08-22 04:23 PM
where is vldrao and 22K visas??
i think v r f'ed up big time; part of the problem was setting our hopes higher.
on another note, if some ppl call this a rumor, I would say this is US and "almost all" rumors in US are true.
I just hope its not true.
Vldrao is not a god. His assumptions are based on the facts from USCIS data, Do you know that 22k visas were not issued. If yes,quote that. Nobody knows and all are playing guessing game. Leave him alone.
i think v r f'ed up big time; part of the problem was setting our hopes higher.
on another note, if some ppl call this a rumor, I would say this is US and "almost all" rumors in US are true.
I just hope its not true.
Vldrao is not a god. His assumptions are based on the facts from USCIS data, Do you know that 22k visas were not issued. If yes,quote that. Nobody knows and all are playing guessing game. Leave him alone.
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thomachan72
12-09 04:39 PM
I'd say fuck the majority. You think we are going to believe something as stupid? If you believe so much in humanity, why don't you distribute all the dollars you earned in the US among the poor in India.
That you won't do. But you'll preach lessons of humanity to others.
Ooops, sorry about that Master/Miss a1b2c3d4e6. Its completely my fault. I appologize for that. I actually forgot to inform you........the dollar distribution was done last week. I tried to reach you but I guess you were busy supporting the sheriff? Now can I preach humanity to you?????:D:D
That you won't do. But you'll preach lessons of humanity to others.
Ooops, sorry about that Master/Miss a1b2c3d4e6. Its completely my fault. I appologize for that. I actually forgot to inform you........the dollar distribution was done last week. I tried to reach you but I guess you were busy supporting the sheriff? Now can I preach humanity to you?????:D:D
ragz4u
04-12 10:07 AM
of a fortune 500 company. Going by his email and profile, most countries and organizations would die to hire him. But, he is stuck in backlog. :(
Guys, please send us your stories, we can compile a list of all the stories and pass them on to senators for them to see how US will lose if they do not care about highly skilled immigrants
Guys, please send us your stories, we can compile a list of all the stories and pass them on to senators for them to see how US will lose if they do not care about highly skilled immigrants
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wfy_2004
07-17 10:13 PM
Job well done!
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ragz4u
04-12 06:18 PM
Ragz
I am not ( so do others i guess) interested in names location etc
just the content.. want to see how great our immigrant population is
Keep up the good work
At the same time, have you sent us your story? As I had mentioned earlier, we need all the stories we can!
I am not ( so do others i guess) interested in names location etc
just the content.. want to see how great our immigrant population is
Keep up the good work
At the same time, have you sent us your story? As I had mentioned earlier, we need all the stories we can!
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pappu
03-07 01:21 PM
There have been some new developments. We will post the details as soon as we get some more clarity. Please wait until then.
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belmontboy
04-14 04:28 PM
Nope it is not good
Why do STEM graduates have to have it the easy way while we have it hard. The least the STEM graduate can do is wait for 2 years for visa
Now you are telling the real reason :)
2 yrs wait?? Its been 4 yrs and yet to file 485
Fortunately you are one among the minorities that oppose this proposal. I am glad that IV has this proposal as part of its agenda
Why do STEM graduates have to have it the easy way while we have it hard. The least the STEM graduate can do is wait for 2 years for visa
Now you are telling the real reason :)
2 yrs wait?? Its been 4 yrs and yet to file 485
Fortunately you are one among the minorities that oppose this proposal. I am glad that IV has this proposal as part of its agenda
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kate123
02-25 03:16 PM
ganguteli,
I completely dis agree with you. This action item is completely different. As realiseit mentioned earlier, we should take one step at a time. we have another thread revlvoing around the IV for prefiling of AOS. Please see http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23695
If you have any innovative ideas please come forward and once we gain enough momentum then we can request entire communtiy (including who have applied for AOS) to help us with the effort.
Do not take my comment personally.
Thanks,
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
I completely dis agree with you. This action item is completely different. As realiseit mentioned earlier, we should take one step at a time. we have another thread revlvoing around the IV for prefiling of AOS. Please see http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23695
If you have any innovative ideas please come forward and once we gain enough momentum then we can request entire communtiy (including who have applied for AOS) to help us with the effort.
Do not take my comment personally.
Thanks,
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
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kdprasad
07-17 09:17 PM
You are working hard for a common cause.
YOU ARE THE BEST And I am proud I am part of this Group.!!!
YOU ARE THE BEST And I am proud I am part of this Group.!!!
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abhijitp
11-16 05:16 PM
^^
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kkarun
03-09 05:31 PM
as promised.
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paskal
11-20 02:53 AM
I never claimed any amount for this holiday gift on this thread yet but what if I want to donate $31 or per say $ 81 one time, I do not have that option now and so I will end up not donating now and wait and donate when I feel comfortable with $ 100/- or its multiplications. That is called turning away and if you guys do not see any danger into it I do not have any further words.
Fund raising is an art and I believe our current startegy is lacking that art. If you guys see the base of any major successful fund raising (Grass root level not Political ones, mind well we claim ourselves grass root level organization)you will always find donors with $ 1 to donors with $1 million donatiing as per their will. Grass root level fund raisings can not afford constraints which normally goes successful in political and/or industrial fund raisings.
Some of the strong supporters of current policy, in their argument, automatically assume that willing donor always used to spend $ 100/- frequently for drinks or food and may be living lavish life style. But they are partly wrong in their assumption...I myself never eat outside frequently. Even on a travel trip I cook my food by myself and I normally do not drink sodas or alcohol so what abhijitp has given a example at least does not remain valid for me but I can not say that it is completely out of proportion, as it has some valid logic but it can not be true for everyone.
Point is if we make a wrong based fund raising policy, we may hurt ourselves only. I know my option, if I want to donate odd figure now, I will not be able to donate it now, and I will have to wait till I feel comfortable donating $ 100/- and/or single digit multiplications of $ 100/- but would that be considered a good and wise option?
For an example, I am emotionally charged today and I want to donate $ 61/-(As I may plan that much only..for whatever reasons) but I am not able to donate so I will not donate and say after 4 months I will be able to plan $ 100/- but what if at that time I may not be emotionally charged to donate all together? So end effect would be I will end up donating nothing ( This is just an example..:))
And for the sake of argument if you enrolled yourself $50/- recurring, you did it willingly and so would you change to $ 25/- recurring if $ 25/-option is available to you? (Note: I think most people on this board fear that with having a minimum amount option, most people will turn to that only but that may not be 100% true. and even if it may become true it will end up having more donation flow) For most people answer is no, I believe, They will stick to $ 50/- recurring option as they can afford and they did it willingly. But with current policy we are completely turning away the people who may otherwise donate, for an example $ 20/- monthly-recurring policy may turn 40 new commited donors in whereas $50/- recurring option is creating only 10 donors and thus we may be ending up $ 300/- confirmed donation loss per month. This is just an example and based on assumption that less amount would attract more commited donors.
Having said all this, if majority memebrs and core still feel that this will be the only future standard for accepting donations then as I mentioned above, I will have only one option left and that is to wait till I become comfortable for donating $ 100/- ( I will remain emotionally charged...:))
when we had options to donate $20, a large number of members came out with the same argument for reducing it to $10!
meanwhile the check option usually allows flexibility and is temporarily down for some circumstances beyond immediate control. it will be back though.
Fund raising is an art and I believe our current startegy is lacking that art. If you guys see the base of any major successful fund raising (Grass root level not Political ones, mind well we claim ourselves grass root level organization)you will always find donors with $ 1 to donors with $1 million donatiing as per their will. Grass root level fund raisings can not afford constraints which normally goes successful in political and/or industrial fund raisings.
Some of the strong supporters of current policy, in their argument, automatically assume that willing donor always used to spend $ 100/- frequently for drinks or food and may be living lavish life style. But they are partly wrong in their assumption...I myself never eat outside frequently. Even on a travel trip I cook my food by myself and I normally do not drink sodas or alcohol so what abhijitp has given a example at least does not remain valid for me but I can not say that it is completely out of proportion, as it has some valid logic but it can not be true for everyone.
Point is if we make a wrong based fund raising policy, we may hurt ourselves only. I know my option, if I want to donate odd figure now, I will not be able to donate it now, and I will have to wait till I feel comfortable donating $ 100/- and/or single digit multiplications of $ 100/- but would that be considered a good and wise option?
For an example, I am emotionally charged today and I want to donate $ 61/-(As I may plan that much only..for whatever reasons) but I am not able to donate so I will not donate and say after 4 months I will be able to plan $ 100/- but what if at that time I may not be emotionally charged to donate all together? So end effect would be I will end up donating nothing ( This is just an example..:))
And for the sake of argument if you enrolled yourself $50/- recurring, you did it willingly and so would you change to $ 25/- recurring if $ 25/-option is available to you? (Note: I think most people on this board fear that with having a minimum amount option, most people will turn to that only but that may not be 100% true. and even if it may become true it will end up having more donation flow) For most people answer is no, I believe, They will stick to $ 50/- recurring option as they can afford and they did it willingly. But with current policy we are completely turning away the people who may otherwise donate, for an example $ 20/- monthly-recurring policy may turn 40 new commited donors in whereas $50/- recurring option is creating only 10 donors and thus we may be ending up $ 300/- confirmed donation loss per month. This is just an example and based on assumption that less amount would attract more commited donors.
Having said all this, if majority memebrs and core still feel that this will be the only future standard for accepting donations then as I mentioned above, I will have only one option left and that is to wait till I become comfortable for donating $ 100/- ( I will remain emotionally charged...:))
when we had options to donate $20, a large number of members came out with the same argument for reducing it to $10!
meanwhile the check option usually allows flexibility and is temporarily down for some circumstances beyond immediate control. it will be back though.
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antihero
04-15 12:21 AM
What is the need of any sublabor demand ( per direction of this thread?) if they just retain 140 date ? There would no need in first place for any one to use it.
The intent of a subst labor was to save the company time and money for obtaining another labor for the same position in case the original beneficiary drops out. Remember, labor was a company petition, not employee petition. The companies still would have wanted it even if it does not retain its original PD.
The basic thrust behind the idea of changing the rules of PD allocation for subst cases is to push forward PD to july 07 level. Most of the subst happened in that month. we are not asking subst labor folks to quit the queue, just asking them to move behind.
The intent of a subst labor was to save the company time and money for obtaining another labor for the same position in case the original beneficiary drops out. Remember, labor was a company petition, not employee petition. The companies still would have wanted it even if it does not retain its original PD.
The basic thrust behind the idea of changing the rules of PD allocation for subst cases is to push forward PD to july 07 level. Most of the subst happened in that month. we are not asking subst labor folks to quit the queue, just asking them to move behind.
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ragz4u
04-12 02:04 PM
That really helps. But we need more stories from IV members. It need not be earth shattering like being a researcher in some cutting edge lab or an exec in a top 50 firm. We all have our own stories
If you read the first post, the senator (I think it was Kennedy) made a big deal about some immigrant he knew who had a very 'ordinary' life. All of us in IV are atleast one step ahead in the sense that we all are 'highly skilled'.
It could be about a Software Engineer who cannot get a promotion and has to reject more lucrative/satisfying offers from other firms to a person who is qualified as a High School teacher who cannot teach because she does not have an H1 visa
It could be about someone getting frustrated and applying to Canada as a backup otion or someone. Someone else might have a spouse who has been on H4 for 6 years and now cannot work inspite of avaiability of sponsor because one may use only 6 years of H visa.
Guys, unless we all chip in, lets forget about getting any resolution to this issue. IV is doing all it can and has been getting some success in getting amendments introduced. But unless we all step up to the plate, we can assure you it will be very difficult for us to protect these amendments in the senate. House conference will just chew us until we make some noise.
There are 3000 members on this forum, can't we even get a 100 decent stories to pass on to the media? Its difficult to convice media to write about us with only 5 people's stories......please chip in....as promised, no personal info about you will be revealed, unless you explicity mention that to us....
If you read the first post, the senator (I think it was Kennedy) made a big deal about some immigrant he knew who had a very 'ordinary' life. All of us in IV are atleast one step ahead in the sense that we all are 'highly skilled'.
It could be about a Software Engineer who cannot get a promotion and has to reject more lucrative/satisfying offers from other firms to a person who is qualified as a High School teacher who cannot teach because she does not have an H1 visa
It could be about someone getting frustrated and applying to Canada as a backup otion or someone. Someone else might have a spouse who has been on H4 for 6 years and now cannot work inspite of avaiability of sponsor because one may use only 6 years of H visa.
Guys, unless we all chip in, lets forget about getting any resolution to this issue. IV is doing all it can and has been getting some success in getting amendments introduced. But unless we all step up to the plate, we can assure you it will be very difficult for us to protect these amendments in the senate. House conference will just chew us until we make some noise.
There are 3000 members on this forum, can't we even get a 100 decent stories to pass on to the media? Its difficult to convice media to write about us with only 5 people's stories......please chip in....as promised, no personal info about you will be revealed, unless you explicity mention that to us....
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bfadlia
07-11 12:39 PM
Off topic, but I'm confused in figuring out the standards for closing topics in this forum. I've seen threads with much lower tone, fewer personal attacks and cleaner language being called useless bickering and closed.
I don't mean anyone personally, and I can be wrong, but to me it seems like if the people involved are not moderators and expressing reasonable argument against an IV goal or IV practice it's quickly a target for closing. While if a moderator is involved and has enough supporters to overpower the other party, the thread is kept open with no problem even though it's the same level of bickering and insult exchange.
I don't mean anyone personally, and I can be wrong, but to me it seems like if the people involved are not moderators and expressing reasonable argument against an IV goal or IV practice it's quickly a target for closing. While if a moderator is involved and has enough supporters to overpower the other party, the thread is kept open with no problem even though it's the same level of bickering and insult exchange.
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maheshmail
02-25 11:58 AM
This is Fantastic Idea
vbkris77
06-09 02:12 PM
We could have got 1000 from each of the IV member, if July Fiasco hadn't happened.
Most I spoke to are content with EAD/AP.
Even if 1000 of our ~41000 members contribute 100 dollars each, we can host two more events like this.
It makes sense to ask help from outside of the organization only when our internal resources are all exhausted. However, sadly, most of us do not want to even contribute for the good cause. :o
Most I spoke to are content with EAD/AP.
Even if 1000 of our ~41000 members contribute 100 dollars each, we can host two more events like this.
It makes sense to ask help from outside of the organization only when our internal resources are all exhausted. However, sadly, most of us do not want to even contribute for the good cause. :o
alisa
02-04 01:44 PM
I totally agree with you my friend.
I came across this website last year in November. I got active in December, and contributed, and tried to get active in my state chapter.
When I come across posts that want to remove country caps, or some other measure that is going to be harmful to me, I have to stop and ask myself if I am shooting myself in the foot by supporting IV.
Its not about whats fair. Nor about what common sense is. Its about self-interest.
If we are increasing the size of the pie, then it benefits me (ROW) to be here. If we are to fight each other over crumbs, then it doesn't.
Alisa,
what should prevail is a matter of perspective. If you are an Indian then skill should prevail, if you are not, then of course it is the other way around
I came across this website last year in November. I got active in December, and contributed, and tried to get active in my state chapter.
When I come across posts that want to remove country caps, or some other measure that is going to be harmful to me, I have to stop and ask myself if I am shooting myself in the foot by supporting IV.
Its not about whats fair. Nor about what common sense is. Its about self-interest.
If we are increasing the size of the pie, then it benefits me (ROW) to be here. If we are to fight each other over crumbs, then it doesn't.
Alisa,
what should prevail is a matter of perspective. If you are an Indian then skill should prevail, if you are not, then of course it is the other way around
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