borgho
06-08 09:47 AM
I wanted to add a few points again - after reading the previous posts from Alien2006 and Chanduv23.
To alien2006' posts I want to add the following:
Funny how many of us have noticed the flow of suggestive ideas that we are given right from the time we start the H1 process - back in our home country:
1. Prospective H1 employer suggests the following (nothing in writing of course):
"Great. You are very smart and deserving. We have choosen you to be one of the lucky few whom we will take to America this year after filing your H1-B visa. Once you land there on the H1-B visa, everything will be great. You will have a job in a few days with one of our clients (Buzzer - this is one heck of a lie - there are no confirmed jobs - one has to go through the whole process of interviews again to find a project where you will be accepted on a contract position. Rarely I have seen H1 companies who have projects of their own for their employees...but no one tells us that!!!). After you have worked with us for about 6 or 7 months we will file your green card and you will have your green card within 3 - 4 years. You will be all set with the wonderful American Dream in less than 6 years which is the validity of your H1 visa!!!. (Buzzer - One more great turd of BS - Yes they will apply our green card...BUT they may or may not pay for it...they will apply but there are 195,000 H1s and only 7000 Green cards per year for India - guess what MOST OF us will only dream of a green card and may never get one).
Folks here shout at us about why we "expect" to get a green card when we "know" that we are here on a temporary H1 visa - WRONG - we know that H1 is temp - but we also are made to think that H1 is the first natural step towards a green card. Once we get here its a big wake-up call after about couple of years on how false that premise is.
Also - if we are "temps" no one - employers, for that matter - any organisation that we come accros in our "immigrant lives" here in the US try to highlight that YOU Are TEMPS...WE JUST GOT YOU HERE TO BE A TEMP WORKED, EXPLOIT YOU IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN, MAKE A QUICK BUCK ON YOU...and then put you on the sinking broken boat called "GC process" and forget about you!!!. No wonder we think we think that we deserve to a fair and simple GC process - but it should be made simple and fair - coz thats the sublimal message we have been dumped with for the past 6 or 7 years...its now time for them to come through on their promises.
To Chanduv23 post - Yes I agree things are much better now...in the last 10 or 15 years....and probably thats the reason more people want to come here and work here...I know I love my job, the people here and the whole way of life here.
To alien2006' posts I want to add the following:
Funny how many of us have noticed the flow of suggestive ideas that we are given right from the time we start the H1 process - back in our home country:
1. Prospective H1 employer suggests the following (nothing in writing of course):
"Great. You are very smart and deserving. We have choosen you to be one of the lucky few whom we will take to America this year after filing your H1-B visa. Once you land there on the H1-B visa, everything will be great. You will have a job in a few days with one of our clients (Buzzer - this is one heck of a lie - there are no confirmed jobs - one has to go through the whole process of interviews again to find a project where you will be accepted on a contract position. Rarely I have seen H1 companies who have projects of their own for their employees...but no one tells us that!!!). After you have worked with us for about 6 or 7 months we will file your green card and you will have your green card within 3 - 4 years. You will be all set with the wonderful American Dream in less than 6 years which is the validity of your H1 visa!!!. (Buzzer - One more great turd of BS - Yes they will apply our green card...BUT they may or may not pay for it...they will apply but there are 195,000 H1s and only 7000 Green cards per year for India - guess what MOST OF us will only dream of a green card and may never get one).
Folks here shout at us about why we "expect" to get a green card when we "know" that we are here on a temporary H1 visa - WRONG - we know that H1 is temp - but we also are made to think that H1 is the first natural step towards a green card. Once we get here its a big wake-up call after about couple of years on how false that premise is.
Also - if we are "temps" no one - employers, for that matter - any organisation that we come accros in our "immigrant lives" here in the US try to highlight that YOU Are TEMPS...WE JUST GOT YOU HERE TO BE A TEMP WORKED, EXPLOIT YOU IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN, MAKE A QUICK BUCK ON YOU...and then put you on the sinking broken boat called "GC process" and forget about you!!!. No wonder we think we think that we deserve to a fair and simple GC process - but it should be made simple and fair - coz thats the sublimal message we have been dumped with for the past 6 or 7 years...its now time for them to come through on their promises.
To Chanduv23 post - Yes I agree things are much better now...in the last 10 or 15 years....and probably thats the reason more people want to come here and work here...I know I love my job, the people here and the whole way of life here.
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akred
07-14 07:31 PM
Guests and members,
Please take the time to sign this petition so that it can be delivered to CNN as soon as possible.
Please take the time to sign this petition so that it can be delivered to CNN as soon as possible.
wikipedia_fan
03-30 02:50 PM
Hey I have heard that employer can't revoke ur 140 if it is approved and more than 180 days...
Please check this information with Gurus....
Employer can revoke 140 anytime. But if it crosses 180 days, it should not matter, which is not happening in my case
Please check this information with Gurus....
Employer can revoke 140 anytime. But if it crosses 180 days, it should not matter, which is not happening in my case
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indiadivided
02-14 10:36 AM
I think Mr. MACACA, it will better if this word (Macaca) is not repeated, since promoting this word might convert this into a word for Indians like the N word. So get your nick changed.
I have read the above book and other books (lateral thinking, ...) by Edward de bono; he has written a lot of (non expensive) books. I strongly recommend his books to the open minded reader.
I should also be banned soon. My post was not published on Friday. I did not praise logiclife for the Friday episode. I do understand that my question's will not get answered.
On the other hand, I see absolutely no content in anand26's posts. Such posts are a complete waste of time for our cause.
I have read the above book and other books (lateral thinking, ...) by Edward de bono; he has written a lot of (non expensive) books. I strongly recommend his books to the open minded reader.
I should also be banned soon. My post was not published on Friday. I did not praise logiclife for the Friday episode. I do understand that my question's will not get answered.
On the other hand, I see absolutely no content in anand26's posts. Such posts are a complete waste of time for our cause.
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girijas
06-19 05:39 PM
I called the local senator's office (Maryland) and they couldn't give me a response. They claim that they don't have access to the information on a bill status if it is a federal bill. But if I call the representatives from California, the office asked me to call my local representative for information on bill status!
The only house bill with a Senate version is HR 6039 (26 co sponsors). However the corresponding senate version S.3084 only has 2 co sponsors.
The other two bills do not have a senate version
The only house bill with a Senate version is HR 6039 (26 co sponsors). However the corresponding senate version S.3084 only has 2 co sponsors.
The other two bills do not have a senate version
imh1b
01-10 05:22 PM
Sending letters is a waste of time. I did many in the past and nothing happened. We will only make post office richer and lose money on postage. Nobody reads or replies to letters.
Anyone willing to do hunger strike?
Anyone willing to do hunger strike?
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inskrish
09-26 02:02 AM
Thanks Lasantha for all your help. Even after getting your green card you continue to participate and help others in this struggle. That is Great. For the sake of disclosure here are some of the messages you left for other members. I think that these messages are extremely abusive and very harsh as compared to the message left for you. Although we do not encourage the use of words like moron, stupid, idiot, we see these words being used often on the forum.
Lasantha 02:39, 23rd Sep 2007 -23 Ass hole !!!
Lasantha 10:59, 14th Nov 2007 -27 Eat Crap you bastard!
Lasantha 00:54, 19th Nov 2007 -27 DUMBASS YOURSELF!!!
Lasantha 17:03, 5th Dec 2007 -28 WTF
Lasantha 18:05, 14th Jan 2008 -39 WTF is wrong with you?
Lasantha 16:06, 11th Mar 2008 -45 Wacko???
Lasantha 21:29, 18th Mar 2008 -52 what the fuck???
You be the judge the let us know if you want to know the user who left you that remark. We will go ahead and post that on this thread. And for the sake of fairness, we will also post the members for whom you left the above messages. You be the judge and decide.
Thanks for your understanding.
Lasantha, what do you say? It is very clear that people are really frustrated while waiting for their GCs, as Lasantha did.
Lasantha 02:39, 23rd Sep 2007 -23 Ass hole !!!
Lasantha 10:59, 14th Nov 2007 -27 Eat Crap you bastard!
Lasantha 00:54, 19th Nov 2007 -27 DUMBASS YOURSELF!!!
Lasantha 17:03, 5th Dec 2007 -28 WTF
Lasantha 18:05, 14th Jan 2008 -39 WTF is wrong with you?
Lasantha 16:06, 11th Mar 2008 -45 Wacko???
Lasantha 21:29, 18th Mar 2008 -52 what the fuck???
You be the judge the let us know if you want to know the user who left you that remark. We will go ahead and post that on this thread. And for the sake of fairness, we will also post the members for whom you left the above messages. You be the judge and decide.
Thanks for your understanding.
Lasantha, what do you say? It is very clear that people are really frustrated while waiting for their GCs, as Lasantha did.
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Green.Tech
06-11 12:10 PM
Folks - We need to come together at this crucial time and light up those phone lines. Please call at your earliest convenience...
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06-02 03:05 PM
They all took down the message, very friendly and said they will pass on the message to the House Reps.
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marlon2006
06-09 03:45 PM
I agree with most of things you said. By the way, I called the office of the Honorable Attorney General Alberto Gonzales today. I sent e-mail messages as well. Obviously I don't even ask about fixes since he is not supposed to have that power. However, I requested a timeline on when the EB3 I-485 cut-off dates are supposed to move ahead. That is something he does have power to do.
Regarding your conclusion on our local IT professionals, I am not sure if that's always the case. I hope you are right.
Marlon2006,
I agree that it is very important to clear what is "rihgt", "privilege" and "symphaty". I tried to do that several times before and in order to avoid any misunderstanding have quoted below a part of one of my messages. Please read it carefully.
"I do believe that I HAVE THE RIGHT to get my LCA adjudicated in 2-3 months time (OK, make it 6 months, having in mind you are dealing with an inefficient administration).
I do believe that I HAVE THE RIGHT to know in short term (2-3 months, not 3-4 years !) if I am eligible for permanent residency.
I do believe that I HAVE THE RIGHT to know how long (if approved) will take the I-485 process.
These are clear, simple questions that require clear, simple answers. Getting these answers (NO is also an answer) in a reasonable period of time is a right, not a privilege..."
Americans have the right to determine how many immigrants they need and how to handle this issue. But we have the right to follow clear and simple rules for that process. It seems to me that the way they currently handle the H1 immigrants has a lot to do with the "Las Vegas" type of business (gambling) - shall I get my LC approved, when will I get the LC approved, shall I get a GC, when can I get the GC etc. The rules change permanently and half a million hard working people are in limbo for a decade and more. That is not fair and this is what you have to explain to the Americans.
And, btw, if the local IT "professionals" you were debating with were so great, they would not be unemployed...
Regarding your conclusion on our local IT professionals, I am not sure if that's always the case. I hope you are right.
Marlon2006,
I agree that it is very important to clear what is "rihgt", "privilege" and "symphaty". I tried to do that several times before and in order to avoid any misunderstanding have quoted below a part of one of my messages. Please read it carefully.
"I do believe that I HAVE THE RIGHT to get my LCA adjudicated in 2-3 months time (OK, make it 6 months, having in mind you are dealing with an inefficient administration).
I do believe that I HAVE THE RIGHT to know in short term (2-3 months, not 3-4 years !) if I am eligible for permanent residency.
I do believe that I HAVE THE RIGHT to know how long (if approved) will take the I-485 process.
These are clear, simple questions that require clear, simple answers. Getting these answers (NO is also an answer) in a reasonable period of time is a right, not a privilege..."
Americans have the right to determine how many immigrants they need and how to handle this issue. But we have the right to follow clear and simple rules for that process. It seems to me that the way they currently handle the H1 immigrants has a lot to do with the "Las Vegas" type of business (gambling) - shall I get my LC approved, when will I get the LC approved, shall I get a GC, when can I get the GC etc. The rules change permanently and half a million hard working people are in limbo for a decade and more. That is not fair and this is what you have to explain to the Americans.
And, btw, if the local IT "professionals" you were debating with were so great, they would not be unemployed...
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singhsa3
03-13 01:06 PM
Folks,
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don’t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
This my copyright and very much pertain to our situation:
*********************
I left my world in search of prosperity
The prosperity is taking an eternity
My struggle is long and daunting
Making it more and more frustrating
Life at times seems uncontrollable
Flowing with the time unstoppable
Graying hairs testify for the feeling
Fat belly making me further unappealing
Sometimes I think of going back
Try to gather the courage that I lack
But the world I left is not the same any more.
And the world I am in, has lost its lure.
I am on the crossroad of my life
One is forward, one is left and other is right.
I don’t like the choices shown
May be I would have to create a world of my own
***************
Thanks
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06-11 01:50 PM
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rajagopal_04
12-28 10:13 AM
My H1b (Revalidation for 7th yr) was on Dec 13th 1:45PM...Still hasnt receive my passport...Called the consulate ...they mentioned PIMS check is needed in order to stamp the passport...My travel date is Jan 9th..and I am also getting anxious...When asked about how long I will have to wait..they said to call back on Jan 5th (!!!????)...
Consulate apparently was on vacation from Dec 21st thru 26th..in US also until 2nd is pretty much 'holiday season' (lot of folks on vacation) (I hear this PIMS check is done by some system in Okalahoma)..
I hope I wont have to postpone my tickets...Looks like this system got kicked in Late Nov,Dec (Per Murthy)..May be we are the gini pigs..
I echoed my concern to the US consulate that delays will cause significant financial loss (extra vacation days, loss of pay, travel plan changes etc)...I dont think they are bothered..but it will be good if who ever is affected can send emails/call consulate and echo these concerns..('May be' all of us together will have a bigger voice)
Today i got reply from Chennai US consulate.
"Due to the implementation of new system requirements for the processing of petition based non-immigrant visas, the dispatch of passports with these types of visas from our office may be delayed by several days beyond regular processing times. Please wait at least seven working days after your date of interview before contacting our office regarding your passport."
Anyway I cancelled my wife's flight tickets, and won't book until they handover the passport to VFS. I agree with jitnair, this delay is affecting all our travel and personal plans in very BAD way.
Consulate apparently was on vacation from Dec 21st thru 26th..in US also until 2nd is pretty much 'holiday season' (lot of folks on vacation) (I hear this PIMS check is done by some system in Okalahoma)..
I hope I wont have to postpone my tickets...Looks like this system got kicked in Late Nov,Dec (Per Murthy)..May be we are the gini pigs..
I echoed my concern to the US consulate that delays will cause significant financial loss (extra vacation days, loss of pay, travel plan changes etc)...I dont think they are bothered..but it will be good if who ever is affected can send emails/call consulate and echo these concerns..('May be' all of us together will have a bigger voice)
Today i got reply from Chennai US consulate.
"Due to the implementation of new system requirements for the processing of petition based non-immigrant visas, the dispatch of passports with these types of visas from our office may be delayed by several days beyond regular processing times. Please wait at least seven working days after your date of interview before contacting our office regarding your passport."
Anyway I cancelled my wife's flight tickets, and won't book until they handover the passport to VFS. I agree with jitnair, this delay is affecting all our travel and personal plans in very BAD way.
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Canadianindian
06-01 12:18 PM
The New York/New Jersey and Connecticut members very actively participated in calling their respresenatatives. California members have been known to be great participants. Please call.
Thanks to everyone who has participated and had been participating in Call Campaign Phases I and II. Here comes our next phase - Phase 3.
For phase 3 of our campaign we need to call the Representatives listed below to seek support for bills HR 5882, HR 5921 & HR 6039 from republican congressmen/congresswomen in our area. This is a very critical Action Item and we at least need to make 300 phone calls to be heard. We only have six representatives to contact this time and We can do this.
Please use the instructions provided below to make the phone calls.
(1) Call the congressman/woman office and request to speak with the aide who handles Legislative and Immigration matters
2) If they are not available leave a VM for them
I would like Representative "Representative Name" to co sponsor bills
HR 6039 & HR 5882, HR 5921. All the three bills have wide bipartisan
support in the house and will help improve American competitiveness &
reduce the back logs associated with USCIS. All these bills are non
controversial measures that will help US to stay competitive with a
highly educated and skilled work force
(3) As usual Do NOT get into the CIR issue or illegal Immigration. If
the aide is confusing with CIR or illegal immigration, just tell them
that these are legal immigration bills.
(4) If the aide asks whether you belong to the district or not, tell
them NO if you don't. Mention to them that you already spoke with
your representative and would like the congressman/congresswoman
support.
Here is the list of representatives to contact:
Mary Bono � California 45'th District
D.C Office Ph: 202-225-5330
Brian Bilbray � California 50'th District
Ph: 202-225-0508
Ken Calvert � California 44'th District
Ph: 202-225-1986
Jerry Lewis � California 41'st District
Ph: 202-225-5861
John Campbell � California 48'th District
Ph: 202-225-5611
Gary Miller � California 42'nd District
Ph: 202-225-3201
This Campaign has been kicked off for the California IV Group a couple of days ago. A few members of Cal. IV have been in touch with the offices listed above past week. We need more people to make the
calls and build momentum. Let us get going on this Action Item. Together, We can do this
Thanks to everyone who has participated and had been participating in Call Campaign Phases I and II. Here comes our next phase - Phase 3.
For phase 3 of our campaign we need to call the Representatives listed below to seek support for bills HR 5882, HR 5921 & HR 6039 from republican congressmen/congresswomen in our area. This is a very critical Action Item and we at least need to make 300 phone calls to be heard. We only have six representatives to contact this time and We can do this.
Please use the instructions provided below to make the phone calls.
(1) Call the congressman/woman office and request to speak with the aide who handles Legislative and Immigration matters
2) If they are not available leave a VM for them
I would like Representative "Representative Name" to co sponsor bills
HR 6039 & HR 5882, HR 5921. All the three bills have wide bipartisan
support in the house and will help improve American competitiveness &
reduce the back logs associated with USCIS. All these bills are non
controversial measures that will help US to stay competitive with a
highly educated and skilled work force
(3) As usual Do NOT get into the CIR issue or illegal Immigration. If
the aide is confusing with CIR or illegal immigration, just tell them
that these are legal immigration bills.
(4) If the aide asks whether you belong to the district or not, tell
them NO if you don't. Mention to them that you already spoke with
your representative and would like the congressman/congresswoman
support.
Here is the list of representatives to contact:
Mary Bono � California 45'th District
D.C Office Ph: 202-225-5330
Brian Bilbray � California 50'th District
Ph: 202-225-0508
Ken Calvert � California 44'th District
Ph: 202-225-1986
Jerry Lewis � California 41'st District
Ph: 202-225-5861
John Campbell � California 48'th District
Ph: 202-225-5611
Gary Miller � California 42'nd District
Ph: 202-225-3201
This Campaign has been kicked off for the California IV Group a couple of days ago. A few members of Cal. IV have been in touch with the offices listed above past week. We need more people to make the
calls and build momentum. Let us get going on this Action Item. Together, We can do this
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07-02 03:22 PM
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Canadian_Dream
09-29 01:02 PM
Was your previous approval based on an extension ? [Pending LC/Approved I-140 etc] ?
Does your current transfer require documents from the previous employer ? [LC/Approved I-140] ?
Were you paid the prevailing wages mentioned in the LCA of previous H1B ? Can this be supported by the W2 of last financial year [Not the paycheck].
Did you have I-94 attached in the previously approved H1B ?
Please answer these questions it might be helpful in finding what might have raised the red flag.
Does your current transfer require documents from the previous employer ? [LC/Approved I-140] ?
Were you paid the prevailing wages mentioned in the LCA of previous H1B ? Can this be supported by the W2 of last financial year [Not the paycheck].
Did you have I-94 attached in the previously approved H1B ?
Please answer these questions it might be helpful in finding what might have raised the red flag.
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vinoddas
07-11 07:28 PM
I just got to this forum through some means and saw this thread. I work at Oracle and so I have sent it to the Oracle mailing lists for their support
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priderock
05-24 02:20 PM
Does this amendment strictly apply to new H1B filings or will it also impact people with H1B and an approved I-140 but need to extend it due to retrogression?
Regarding the exodus, maybe that is their purpose. Maybe, they have enough
hi-tech workers and they don't need more. I guess we need to watch and wait and accept this as a reality.
They get their way to kick H1 people out. I was wondering what their plans be for kicking GC holders and some who got citizenship out. Bring KKK back ??
The way things are, this does not look like the glorious country I dreamed of.
Last year facing long period of uncertainity I and my wife had made a decision to go back to India after meeting breaking even on our house.
I think most of us wanted to be in US in the first place because we thought that legal systems work here and justice is upheld. If we have to fight with the system anyway, why do it in a foreign land? Better to go home and make that place better .. probably good enough for them to envy.
As of now this country seems to be exactly opposite of what they claim to be.
Justice - not served to us
Freedom & liberty - not if you are on H1
Free economy & globalization - Only if it benefits us
Compassion & Humanitarianism - Only if you are American citizens. We don't care if farmers are comitting suicides in India or starving in Mexico due to our policies & subsidies.
The way I see it American dream is going to turn into American nightmare for many of us.
I think every one is waiting for their proverbial last straw. Is it the one ?? A million dollar question.
Regarding the exodus, maybe that is their purpose. Maybe, they have enough
hi-tech workers and they don't need more. I guess we need to watch and wait and accept this as a reality.
They get their way to kick H1 people out. I was wondering what their plans be for kicking GC holders and some who got citizenship out. Bring KKK back ??
The way things are, this does not look like the glorious country I dreamed of.
Last year facing long period of uncertainity I and my wife had made a decision to go back to India after meeting breaking even on our house.
I think most of us wanted to be in US in the first place because we thought that legal systems work here and justice is upheld. If we have to fight with the system anyway, why do it in a foreign land? Better to go home and make that place better .. probably good enough for them to envy.
As of now this country seems to be exactly opposite of what they claim to be.
Justice - not served to us
Freedom & liberty - not if you are on H1
Free economy & globalization - Only if it benefits us
Compassion & Humanitarianism - Only if you are American citizens. We don't care if farmers are comitting suicides in India or starving in Mexico due to our policies & subsidies.
The way I see it American dream is going to turn into American nightmare for many of us.
I think every one is waiting for their proverbial last straw. Is it the one ?? A million dollar question.
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walking_dude
11-20 10:12 AM
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lazycis
12-04 08:43 PM
Here is the link to Cao v. Upchurch ruling.
http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/07D0833P.pdf
http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/07D0833P.pdf
eb3_nepa
02-05 04:07 PM
I don't think the only reason is "wife's cannot work".. The other reason for most is changing employers, and career growth while I-485 is in process.
You can keep changing employers once your I-140 is approved. You need to restart ur GC process but you can keep ur PD (if not revoked) and get a 3 year extension immediately based on the Approved I-140.
Sure it's not the best case scenario, but atleast you CAN do it. But for most married folk their spouses on H4 CANNOT work without EADs or waiting a year till the H1 quota opens. Even with the quota opening unless your spouse is into business or IT it is VERY tough to get an H1 for the spouse.
You can keep changing employers once your I-140 is approved. You need to restart ur GC process but you can keep ur PD (if not revoked) and get a 3 year extension immediately based on the Approved I-140.
Sure it's not the best case scenario, but atleast you CAN do it. But for most married folk their spouses on H4 CANNOT work without EADs or waiting a year till the H1 quota opens. Even with the quota opening unless your spouse is into business or IT it is VERY tough to get an H1 for the spouse.
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